Why Most Americans Hate the MSM: More Lies About Iraq
I received an email this morning that completely refutes an article posted in the LA Times about an action conducted in Iraq, but what is more important, the response I have is actually from the guys on the ground. (This was given to me through the understanding that I protect the identity of individual involved.)
First the LA Times article describing the event:
Iraqi residents say U.S. airstrike kills 30 Victims include women and children, witnesses in Ramadi say. The military has no immediate comment.
By Solomon Moore
Times Staff Writer
November 15, 2006
BAGHDAD — A U.S. airstrike in the restive town of Ramadi killed at least 30 people, including women and children, witnesses said Tuesday.
The aerial attack, which took place late Monday, brought the number of violent deaths reported in Iraq on Tuesday to at least 91,according to military sources and witnesses.
Dr. Barakt Mansi, a Ramadi physician, said many of the bodies arriving at the city's morgue Monday night and Tuesday morning were shattered and charred. Another physician, who identified himself only as Dr. Kamal, said some died because of delays created by American roadblocks and heavy fighting.
"It was difficult for us to reach the location because the Americans cordoned off the area," he said.
"This increased the number of the dead — some of the injured could have been evacuated and kept alive."
U.S. military officials had no immediate comment on an airstrike in Ramadi. The military released a statement announcing that American troops in Ramadi killed 11 alleged insurgents in a series of attacks that appeared to be unrelated to an airstrike.
A Times correspondent in Ramadi said at least 15 homes were pulverized by aerial bombardment and families could be seen digging through the ruins with shovels and bare hands. Other families attempted to leave Ramadi on foot or gathered at the city hospital, where a passionate crowd called out "Allahu akbar!" or God is great, in unison.
"National reconciliation is a fiasco!" cried one bereaved relative.
Referring to a local Sunni Arab anti-insurgent group, another relative complained that "the Committee of Salvation is useless."
"They are calling for peace when it is time for jihad," the relative said.
The U.S. military, in its statement, said that American troops killed two alleged insurgents with small-arms fire as they attempted to set an improvised explosive device.
Fire from a tank killed three other suspected insurgents when they returned to the same site. "There were secondary explosions and the remains of the IED continued to burn for about an hour," the statement said.
After an insurgent attack on a U.S. military vehicle four hours later in the same area, U.S. forces opened fire with rifles and tank guns, killing four people who allegedly were stealing equipment. Two more were killed sometime later by American troops, the military said.
In northeast Baghdad, a car bomb detonated Tuesday near a crowded market, killing 15 people and injuring 16.
"I helped to evacuate the injured and the dead," clothing salesman Gaith Saadi said during a phone interview. "Merchants and customers are leaving the market as early as possible these days because of the explosions. We used to close down at 4 p.m., now we close at 1 p.m. Most of the shops in our market are closed and the owners have left Iraq."
Mortar rounds, suicide bombers and gunfire in the capital left at least nine other people dead.
In Baqubah, a fractious, polyglot city 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, 18 people were killed Tuesday, including three Iraqi police officers, Iraqi authorities said.
In the northern oil hub of Kirkuk, gunmen attacked a house late Monday, killing four people and wounding two. On Tuesday, a bomb exploded near a police patrol vehicle, killing two people, including a police officer and injuring four civilians.
Gunmen in Kirkuk also attacked a barbershop, killing one hairstylist.
In Tikrit, the hometown of deposed President Saddam Hussein, a roadside bomb killed a police officer and wounded seven people.
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moore1@latimes.com
Times correspondents in Ramadi, Baghdad, Baqubah, Hillah, Kirkuk and Tikrit
contributed to this report.
Now read the statement by a soldier who was present when the action took place. This is his letter to his family explaining his reaction to the LA Times article and the action as it actually happened:
The article [above] below is an example of why you simply cannot believe most media reports coming out of Iraq. The LA Time reporter, Solomon Moore, is not in Ramadi. He relies on an Iraqi stringer here who has ties to insurgents. In this article, Moore repeats almost verbatim, insurgent propaganda we have intercepted. The fighting in question occurred in my battle space within Ramadi and I was personally and intimately involved.
There were no air strikes anywhere in Ramadi on the day in question. Through two different means, we acquired a group off AIF emplacing a large IED on a neighborhood street. After I was sure they were enemy, I ordered one of my tanks to engage. Its cannon fire killed the enemy and set off the IED. Shortly afterwards, one of my Bradley crews engaged and killed two more AIF emplacing an IED on a nearby street.
In both cases, we continued to observe the area and the locals left the dead lying in the street; this is a sure sign that they are AIF because the Iraqis normally pick up dead civilians in the street quickly. Later that night, I had a route clearance team move through the area. We found the bodies and removed multiple hand grenades off one of them. During that same operation, one of Bradleys escorting the route clearance team was attacked by an IED. The IED set the Bradley on fire and wounded the three Soldiers aboard. One of those brave men now clings to life with
burns over 93% of his body.
We established a security perimeter around the burning vehicle and over-watched it until it burned out and we were able recover the hulk. While over-watching the burning vehicle, we had multiple tank main gun and machine gun engagements against AIF who were desperately trying to steal ammunition from the vehicle (a fool's errand if ever there was one) or emplace additional IEDs to attack the recovery mission they knew would follow. No houses were destroyed and only one courtyard wall
was damaged.
Every target engaged was well within what our restrictive rules of engagement authorize. I am disgusted by the editorial slant of this article, by what passes from journalistic integrity at the LA Times, and by their complicity with our mortal enemies. My Soldiers fight with great precision and skill on a very difficult urban battlefield. The LA Times dishonors them and give aid and comfort to my enemies.
How can we have a reasonable debate about the war when the MSM constantly lies about situation on the ground? The unfortunate aspect is that last week the American people choose to believe the phonies in the LA Times and MSM over the American Serviceman that are on the ground fighting. This indicates a questionable ability on the part of most Americans to discern fact from fiction. Furthermore, it displays a detachment from those that are fighting the war.
It's time we condemn these traitors for who they really are. Tell the LA Times to put an American reporter in Iraq or stop reporting their lies. It’s time the US news media became responsible participants in democracy, rather than the patent lap dogs of the left.
Update: The telephone number to the LA Times: (213) 237-5000

12 comments:
You shouldn't be so quick to call people "liars" and especially not "traitors." Journalists are not in the habit of simply making stories up! When screwups happen, there's usually some explanation that makes sense; if not you can nail the guy. If he faked any part of that story, he's toast.
Without even checking the details I can see that the headline and story report Iraqi claims, not facts. If your contact is sure it never happened, then why didn't the US military say that, instead of declining comment. The answer to printing civilian hearsay is not to print soldier
Weber seems to want to give the benefit of the doubt to the LA Times when their checkered past doesnt inspire any confidence.
The US soldier's response is so much more credible on all levels. He was there and most credible, he is an American soldier.
The soldiers on the ground over there deserve so much more of our respect and confidence. Unfortunately, they seem to have their credibility questioned at every turn when some unknown stringer can get a story published in a MSM outlet with virtually no confirmation.
The MSM should get on their knees every morning and thank the US Military for the privledges of free speech they enjoy. What a bunch of useful idiots....
Other news accounts with different stringers confirm 20 homes were pulverized in the November 13-14 raid. One report says it was a combined air-ground operation. It's unlikely a vehicle-borne IED - the object of the targeted tank fire cited by the critic - would flatten 20 homes.
Journalists are not in the habit of simply making stories up!
Ha, ha, ha, ha. You're a funny guy Jed. You should play that tune at the Comedy Club.
Other news accounts with different stringers confirm 20 homes were pulverized in the November 13-14 raid.
Yet in this day of cell phones that take video...no pictures.
Most curious indeed.
Using the soldier's e-mail here as a starting point, Patterico did an exhaustive analysis of all he could learn about the incident.
His big-picture conclusion:
.... the journalists at the L.A. Times 1) have utterly failed to report the full extent of the military’s side of the story; 2) very likely got some basic facts about the incident wrong; and 3) have done an extremely poor job of explaining the possible limitations on their knowledge — what I like to call “telling the reader what you don’t know as well as what you do know.”
Mr. Weber is living in his own private Idaho.
From the very beginning of our Iraq enterprise, the MSM has jumped on any story that villified our troops or POTUS without feeling the need to obtain any confirmation, yet has ignored every single positive event that has occurred over there.
Jed Weber
Did you know that the word gullible isn't in the dictionary?
"Journalists are not in the habit of simply making stories up!"
I have never read anything so naive in my entire life. I've been involved with 3 very prominent organisations, where anything untoward has a good chance of making the national press. I have therefore known the truth about several stories in the media, and in every case they had some important wrong, somehting easy to find out that changed the entire meaning or importance of the story.
I am also fairly expert (having been involved for over 14 years, and been a classroom instructor) in a field that gets in the press a lot. Every news story I have read that impacts on my particular expertise is wrong in some way that should be obvious to any of my students.
I have met someone involved in completely faking a story (that was a "celebrity" "story", nothing I would have even known about otherwise. He altered a photo).
The press are crap. They are terrible. They do lie to make a story out of nothing; they get things wrong through their own unwillingness to check the facts (still a lie, even if it is through willful ignorance). In either case, if it has a negative impact on the security of their own nation then they are traitors.
Sorry, Jed. Most of the MSM are traitors.
Having watched the intentionally misleading and grossly slanted coverage both while serving in Iraq and from the states, I can tell you that they know exactly what they are doing. Don't you find it odd that any statement by our own military or government falls under immediate scrutiny and endless questioning, when the claims by terrorists (NOT "insurgents") are reported word for word?
There are two groups that I will never forgive for their conduct during the war: the MSM and the Democrats. May they burn in hell.
-Yet another disgusted Iraq veteran
Um, you folks do realize the absolute shear assininity of taking a blurb of text under the claim that it is an email from a specific person as having more validity than a published news account? Wait, what am I asking.
Favor: quit "supporting" us you f---ing nut sacks. Just shut the F up and go away, you are doing little to no good associating you loonie asses with us. It simply makes a difficult job that much more as now I have to distinguish between the honorable and you f- wakjobs.
Um, if anyone here has actually witnessed an act of treason -- as several of you claim to have done -- I recommend you contact your local FBI field office and notify them. It's a serious crime, punishable by death, and you would be remiss in your duties as Americans if you let an act of treason go unreported and unpunished.
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